My Exchange With Hollywood Filmmaker Kamran Pasha Part III

At the conclusion of "My Exchange With Hollywood Filmmaker Kamran Pasha Part II", I had proved that Pasha was not giving us the correct information when he said that only Shiites, are allowed to lie in Islam. Here was his next in the exchange.

Have you ever read Rumi? Or Hafez? What do you know of Sufism, the mystical path of love for all mankind and all religions that is popular throughout the Muslim world? If you have no knowledge about this area, I would be happy to provide you links to books on Amazon.com:

Essential-Sufism-Robert-Frager

Garden-Truth-Promise-Mystical-Tradition

And your reference to the hadiths appear to be an intentional misreading of the intent behind the words. I think you would agree that if someone is trying to kill you for your beliefs, you would in all likelihood refrain from telling him what is in your heart. You are referencing a hadith about war, and you seem to believe that Muslims today living peacefully in the West are nonetheless "at war" and believe they are free to lie about everything to everyone. What a strange vision of life. In your heart, you know that isn't true, even if your anger clouds your sight.

I am not at war with anyone. No one is trying to kill me for my beliefs in America, so what do I have to conceal? You are twisting the spirit and intention of the words in the same way as the Muslim radicals. Both of you want Islam to be evil, but the majority of us Muslims aren't going to go along with it.

God bless you, and may you befriend gentle and kind-hearted Muslims who will show you what our faith is really about.

Best wishes,
Kamran

In his response he had brought up Sufism, which is not what is being spread across the West. It was just another attempeted distraction by him, but I address it anyway and his false claim that Hadiths about lying were only at a time of war.

Pasha, the readings are very clear. Plenty of these examples from the Hadiths have nothing to do with war.
Muhammad admits to lying and encourages Muslims to do likewise.

It does not matter if Muslims are peaceful now (and there have been Islamic attacks on non-Muslims here) as their power rises so does the violence. That can be seen across the world from the UK, to Russia, China, the Philippines, India, and Thailand etc. Muslims also do not have to be violent to takeover. The plan of Muslim Brotherhood is to takeover within the law. Muslims know very well how to use the freedoms of the West against the West to slowly change things to suit Islam. My vision is not strange as more and more people are waking up to the harsh reality of Islam. I am not angry at all, just aware and I am not twisting anything as Mohammad himself was a terrorist. The majority of Muslims do go along with Islamic dominance as non-Muslims are oppressed across the Islamic world and Muslims do nothing to change that.

As far as Sufi goes.... The followers of sufism claim that it is rooted in Muslim culture and tradition, whereas there are factions of Islam — especially Salafism and Wahhabism — that consider Sufism heretical.

Wabbabism is true Islam and that is what is being spread across the West.

Sufi is for Sharia, so that means that it is an ideology that is no friend of the West.
It also says the tariqa (or way) is Mohammed's actions. Mohammad was a rapist and terrorist. This is what you want me to support?

Sufism and Islamic law
Scholars and adherents of Sufism sometimes describe Sufism in terms of a threefold approach to God as explained by a tradition (hadîth) attributed to the Prophet Muhammad,"The Shariah is my words, the tariqa is my actions, and the haqiqa is my interior states". Sufis believe theshariah, tariqa and haqiqa are mutually interdependent.[51]

Sufi


Chris

At this point Pasha could not come up with anymore deflections or excuses for Islam, so he left off once again trying to make me the bad guy for pointing out the truth about Islam. While he was obviously deceptive during this entire exchange he really over does the claim of friendship here.

Your statement that Wahhabism is true Islam said it all, my friend. That is what both you and the Muslim extremists want to believe. You are mirror images and can have each other. Nobody wants that fundamentalist interpretation of Islam except for crazies on the fringe of the Muslim community and people like you that want a monster to fight.

I will let you go in peace. Your heart is hard and wants only to be angry, even when someone offers you love and a hand of friendship. If you look at the tone of each of our emails, I think the differences between our hearts is very clear.

Peace,
Kamran

In my final response to him I point out that he has made another false claim when he stated that only Muslims on the fringe of the Muslim community want Wahhabism.

In other words you cannot refute a word of my last email. I have no tone as I have no hatred for you. I am just a straight talker and like I said earlier, awareness is not anger. But all you can do is try and make me look like the bad guy for pointing out the truth. There is nothing for a non-Muslim to like about Islam advancing in the West. Fact is that Wahhabi Mosques are opening across the West, America included and Muslims are attending them. So your statement that Muslims do not want that "interpretation" is as false as your claim the Muslims in Europe want to integrate.

Here is a Wahhabi Mosque in Illinois that attracts 10,000 worshipers a week.

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Wahhabi (Arabic: Al-Wahhābīyya‎ الوهابية) or Wahhabism was a reformist movement of Sunni Islam attributed to Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, an 18th century scholar from what is today known as Saudi Arabia, who advocated a return to the practices of the first three generations of Islamic history

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Saudi Arabia is the heart of Islam. If that ever changes please let me know.

The only thing that you have offered is deceitfulness. The differences between our hearts are very clear, I am being honest and you are not.

Chris

Pasha has failed to respond to the fact that Wahhabi Mosques are being opened across America and the West and that there is no "moderate" Muslim movement against them. When he ran out of "spin", he ran away.

My Exchange With Hollywood Filmmaker Kamran Pasha Part II

Yesterday I posted part I of "My Exchange With Hollywood Filmmaker Kamran Pasha". We left off with me pointing out the obvious in my return email to him. Here was my last statement to Pasha.

Muslims who are wanting sharia are just following their religion. There are more than enough Muslims there (Europe) that have no intention of assimilating. So the please do not play the overused victim card.

Muslims are constantly telling non-Muslims how to live and what needs to be changed in Europe to suit Islam. So of course non-Muslims are rejecting them. Even Muslims here are acting the same way as in Europe, it is just not as bad yet. Islam and the West do not mix. Domination is what is at the heart of your religion.

Chris

In response Parsha sent me this email where tries to paint me the bad guy for pointing out the problems that Muslim immigration brings to the West. I guess that Parsha would be happier if we quietly surrendered. He also tries to spin out of the fact that Islam allows lying.

Don't worry, I reject the Islam of extremism just like you do. But I just choose to see the incredible beauty within Islam, which you want to ignore.

The Sufis say that Islam is a mirror -- you only see in it what is inside yourself. I think your vision of Islam is the same as that of the extremists, because deep down in your heart you also seek to dominate others. So that is all you can find to focus on in the vast corpus of Islamic thought. Perhaps if you studied Rumi and the Sufis you would find that there is an Islam of love that is quite beautiful. But if you don't want to look there, it is because you prefer to have an Islam you can hate.

Also, with regard to your claim that Islam permits lying to people of other religions (a popular meme among some anti-Muslim propagandists today), I think this idea has arisen out of a misunderstanding of the Shi'ite notion of "Taqiyyah", which in any event is an idea rejected by the majority Sunnis. I would refer you to the wikipedia page on "Taqiyyah":

Taqiyya

I know that if I ever lied as a child, my Muslim mother would give me a pretty harsh scolding!

God bless you,
Kamran

So I responded with this.

To be honest there is nothing for a non-Muslim to like about Islam advancing into the West. Your attempt to try and label me as the bad guy was pretty weak. When there is a problem that is what needs to be focused on and the problem is the Islamic dominance that is spreading across the West. You are just saying anything to try and get the focus off of this.

As far a the lying goes,....Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, *except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for **war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Ahmad, 6.459. H).
Ahmad was a Sunni scholar.

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Another Islamic scholar said that it was OK for Muslims to lie.
By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath.' " Sahih al-Bukhari

Bukhari was also a Sunni. So Islam allows lying.

Muhammad admits to lying and encouraged Muslims to do likewise.

Now we have seen that Parsha was not being honest with us about Islam allowing lying, just as he was not honest about the situation in Europe with Muslims. Tomorrow I will post the final part in which Parsha continues to avoid fact after fact.

My Exchange With Hollywood Filmmaker Kamran Pasha

Yesterday as I was searching the Internet for articles on Islam I came across one by Muslim Kamran Pasha who is Hollywood filmmaker and author of "Mother of the Believers". The article was entitled "Europe and its Muslims: A Gap of Trust", published by the leftist Huffington Post.

The contents of it were an obviously faulty poll which stated that Muslims in Europe were very loyal to Europe. Some of the statistic of the poll were that 80% of French Muslims were loyal to France, 71% of German Muslims were loyal to Germany and the most far fetched one of them all was the one from the United Kingdom where 82% of Muslims said that they were loyal to the UK.

I find it hard to believe that Muslims in these countries have completely changed their views since these past polls and actions.

Were the massive Muslim riots in France of 2005 and 2007 a sign of their loyalty towards France?

A past poll had stated that over 85% of the Muslims in Germany describe themselves as “religious” or “very religious. If they are very religious they cannot be loyal to a non-Islamic country over Islam.

In the UK a recent poll stated that 44% of the Muslims there do not want to integrate. Instead they admit that they want to form their own Islamic communities within the UK. This does not sound like loyalty to me and neither does this.



Mr.Pasha closed his article out by playing the very overused Muslims are the victim card and it is not their fault that they are not integrating. This is what he had to say.

But I hope that Europeans will begin the process of soul searching as to whether their fears of their Muslims neighbors are based in their own prejudices rather than in fact. European Muslims love their countries and want to integrate. It is now up to their host countries to welcome them into a new partnership that will be critical to the future of Europe and the world.

In response to his obvious misleading article I sent Mr.Pasha this email.

I just read your article about Muslims and non-Muslims in
Europe. Of course non-Muslims do not trust them, Muslims are
threatening them and telling them they are there to take over.

Almost 50% of the Muslims in the UK admit that they want a sharia UK, that is not integrating. So that makes you a liar, but what can I expect
your religion allows lying. The liberals at the Huffington Post might
fall for it, but I do not.

Pasha quickly sent me this in return.

Thank you for your email. Integration is a two way street, my friend. That's the whole point of the article. If Europeans reject and exclude their Muslim populations, some will end up in the arms of radicals.

If you have read any of my posts, you will see that I am not a fundamentalist and do no support fundamentalism of any kind, including Muslim fundamentalists, in Europe or anywhere. People of good will must work together to defeat any form of extremism, whether it takes the form of religious fanaticism or racism.

I wish you well, and say to you "Peace". And that is not a lie.

If you provide me a mailing address, I'll be happy to send you a complimentary copy of my novel. Perhaps it will help you see another side of Islam, the Islam of love, joy and harmony that is the heart of my faith.

Warm regards,
Kamran

While Pasha tries to come off very friendly, he is clearly deceptive. That can be seen in the upcoming emails.

My return email to him.

Muslims who are wanting sharia are just following their religion. There are more than enough Muslims there that have no intention of assimilating. So the please do not play the overused victim card.

Muslims are constantly telling non-Muslims how to live and what needs to be changed in Europe to suit Islam. So of course non-Muslims are rejecting them. Even Muslims here are acting the same way as in Europe, it is just not as bad yet. Islam and the West do not mix. Domination is what is at the heart of your religion.

Chris

Tomorrow I will post part II. Stay tuned!